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Post by browny on Nov 27, 2005 18:49:13 GMT
Hey, on my replacement bike ive noticed that it takes ages for it to start from electric start and also after about 5 -10 secs on the first part of riding my scooter the lights cut out but its not as bad after ive been riding it for a good 10mins. I take it this meens the battery is going? As its done 7000km and hasnt had a battery replacement as its still the original. SO I was wondering IF it is the battery can i charge it up using a car charger as they are still 12v? .
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Nov 27, 2005 19:09:45 GMT
NO!!!
The car battery charger will give out too much current than the bike battery can handle. It will get very hot and may even melt or explode!
You will need a low current battery charger (slow trickle chrarger), or one specially for bikes Even using a trickle charger you will need to use one thats rated no higher than 5 amp.
I could be way wrong on this, but I would not risk the damage, I would rather pay the £10 or so, and get the correct charger
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Post by browny on Nov 27, 2005 19:13:49 GMT
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Nov 27, 2005 19:45:47 GMT
Yeah that would be spot on.
I may even get myself one form there!
You never know in winter, whenyou may need one!
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Post by browny on Nov 27, 2005 19:48:35 GMT
yeah, 'cos its a trickle that meens it takes ages to charge? Then again i suppose leaving it charging over night would be okay right?
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Nov 27, 2005 19:56:10 GMT
Thats right, charging over night would not harm the battery at all. In fact the slower you charge a battery the better, fast charging generates heat, and in a lead/acid battery it's easy to distort the soft lead plates inside. This makes the battery less likely to hold a charge. However, you must not leave a battery on charge longer than stated in the instructions for the charger, as over charging has the same eventual effect as fast charging. You really do have to be gentle with lead/acid batteries when it comes to charging and maintenance!
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Post by browny on Nov 27, 2005 20:02:34 GMT
Tuh, you just cant beat good old AA batterys. Hmmmm dont think they would last long in a scooter though. ANyway i bought one of those charges i posted before so ill look forward to that.
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Post by browny on Nov 28, 2005 9:15:15 GMT
HA As luck would have iot my battery totaly cut out this morning at a set of traffic lights!!! I was so embarresed! Oh well ill just have to wait till wednesday for my charger! Good Job i got one!
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Post by Gavin on Nov 28, 2005 9:34:25 GMT
HA As luck would have iot my battery totaly cut out this morning at a set of traffic lights!!! I was so embarresed! Oh well ill just have to wait till wednesday for my charger! Good Job i got one! My Baotian 50 will run without a battery fitted, and the original battery has been flat since I first had the scooter, but I don't get any cut-out problems. It might be a good idea to look elsewhere for the problem.
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Post by r08813 on Nov 28, 2005 11:03:12 GMT
Is it possible that the idle speed is a bit low. I've found that it takes about 10 mins for the idle speed to be about right, otherwise it does take a bit of time to start and can cut out. This is only on cold mornings though, and cured by slightly increasing the idle speed
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Post by browny on Nov 29, 2005 15:37:17 GMT
i doubt its the idle speed as after it cut out, it was so flat that it wudnt turn the starter mototr at all, so i kicked start it and carried on. I tried electric start today and it worked but it soon went flat again but ive got my charger now so ive got another question: Which terminal should i disconnect first from my battery? And when charging which should i connect first (black/red) Total newbie question but isnt ther a correct way to do it? Cheers for your help!
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Nov 29, 2005 17:07:44 GMT
There is a right and wrong way.
You should diconnect thr black(-) terminal first. Also reconnect the black last!
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Post by chcknugget on Nov 29, 2005 17:28:15 GMT
If your battery is dead it puts a strain on the system and can cause your scoot to stall.
Right now I'm running without a voltage regulator and the battery finally wore out. My scoot's lights don't work right now (except for the brakelight and my headlight but the bulb is blown) and it has almost stalled at stoplights. The battery wouldn't have died if my voltage regulator was still alive, but instead I have to recharge the battery every other time I ride.
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Post by browny on Nov 29, 2005 17:59:00 GMT
Thanks all, your such a good friendly bunch!
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