My non-working beauty

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Hey every one, just wanna say how usefull this site is an show you my scooter,

Heres a few pics of my 6 month old(4 months working) scooter.



My best pic

It may be a bit over the top but every time I go into the garage to do something I see it sitting there and usually end up tinkering with it so over the last 2 months ive slowly been adding things. Started with spraying the exhaust with engine enamel is now up to leds that blink when a sound is made nearby, yes I am obsessed!! #emot114#

Installed an alarm, remote start etc.. even came with a blue LED that blinks when it’s on (drilled a hole and put it in the fog light)

Added Led lights in place of the standard ones where applicable (fog light, dash backlight, indicator and beam dash lights), I did this not only because im crazy but also I figured that leds = more efficient, thus headlight dimness when in lo revs will be minimised (yet to find out), I calculated a saving of 12Wats which should reduce headlight dimming(hopefully)
The alarm led is also in that light



Now for a non-practical feature I Installed an el light on the back suspension(wrapped it around back spring, still working on a way to keep it in position. Pic shows how it has 'moved' from its desirable position.



Added a cellphone aerial from an old car kit (junk from the garrage to the scooter) isn’t functional but doesn’t look that bad. "youll never find a use for that box of crap" She says!!

Also I had a pair of LED lights for your car (2 separate LEDS with sticky attachments plug in your cigarette lighter)...... angled them into main headlights and looks awesome so into my scooter it went, a weekend after that I thought changing colours would be one step further to something?. Any way I went and got a pair of white ones and also saw a cheap kit of 3 LEDs and a sonic driver (sound sensor for music). Wired it all up so when the ignition is off the Blue headlights and sound sensitive red works then when you turn the key on it turns on the white light, red and blue fade out (used capacitors)



Yes that is the end of the story for now!!!


.SR.

[hypojam]

Cool

Is that 125cc?

[cb50j]

nice scooter, same as my Jinlun JL50QT-4 (apart from the headlight)......what's yours?........ #sprint#

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HI, its a 50cc 4 stroke, but ive seen 2 stroke 125 with the same body work, and apparently the 139qmb engine can be switched with a 157QMJ or a 152QMI, but i cant find any one who just sells engines.

Ive never been satsfied with what exactly it's called,
dealer called it - Fierce 50 by moto zeta italy (yet its made in china #dunno# )
have seen similar Quinqui ones, but the stickers on mine say 50QT-22 and qunqui ones are QJ50qt-10. Really isnt that big of a deal because they all come from the same place

What type of headlight does yours have cb50j ??

[cb50j]

our scooters are a copy of the Kymco Topboy and Cobra models, my mate's got a Kymco Cobra 100 2 stroke........
my Jinlun Jl50QT-4

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my mates Kymco Cobra

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Wow those are the same, i see what you mean with the headlights, mine seems to give a great high beam but lo beam leaves a small patch of darkness in the center of the road.

Thats good to know where it orignates from, makes asking for body plastics a lot easier if there ever needed.

[BillyGreen1973]

Hi, and welcome aboard!

Nice scooter!

Have a dig around on here, you may find out whats wrong with yours and get it going again

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Thanks, all the information ive needed ive found on this great forum.

Oh yeah how it broke, (Sorry is a Long story)


Tapped into a wire that when cut the engine dies, brought a cheap remote off system which needed one of these connection for its relay. Worked fine, I tried to see if I could be riding it then cut off engine via remote and press the button again and start the engine again. Worked the first time, second time was down a hill going faster then before, engine cut off, started but by the time I was at the bottom of the hill all engine power had been lost and the revs slowly decreased then died.

Wouldnt start after that even after removing, smashing then burning the remote relay!!

I now had two options,
;D$40 an hour mechanic
#hammer# My unskilled "expertise" (know a bit about lawnmowers and the smell of petrol)

To save a few bucks I began my own investigation,
Found no spark, went to the magneto wires, tested for voltage while kick starting, yep.

Followed 2 magneto wires to the cdi , and tested its output to the ignition coil, nothing, so ordered a CDI($110) from the local shop, put it in a week later.

Nothing, except now I get zapped when I touch the coil wires, yet no spark. Orderd an ignition coil then($50).

The one that arrived had a metal connection to the spark plug, original was plastic, he said it’s what they put in there 50cc's. But nothing, so rang the people I got my scooter from and they said tell send up a plastic one, 3 weeks later it came from them, stuck it in, nothing, yet zapping power was going to it.

At this stage I was quite annoyed and decided to let the local shop handle it, took it to them. Rang me up saying they got it working (new cdi needed earth connections on 2 pins) but it's not advancing properly??
Mechanic labour cost was ($80)

Went in and saw what he ment started but increasing the throttle reved it up then suddenly dies.

He said heed order a new magneto should be a week.

2 weeks later (nearly Christmas) I rang and he said his shops supplier doesn’t have them and theve ordered one from china, so will have to wait a week or so he says.

Just after new years I ask the place I got my scooter from they said they have them in stock and could be in my town in a week.

Told the local place that I can get a magneto within a week, he hesitated then estimated it would be around a week till his one gets here, so I wait.

Last week (around 5 weeks waiting) I went there to complain about how I could have sourced the part 3 weeks ago. Again he says "oh it’ll be here next week".

So hopefully it comes sometime soon, and more importantly it BETTER be the right part.

After browsing through this site I found that the wire I tapped into was the trigger coil, thus I reckon when the relay cut this signal, the CDI overloaded because it never got the Pulse to release the charge to the ignition coil, and then the magneto must have been zapped by the CDI when it over charged.

The weird part is that a week ago I put the faulty magneto in the scooter and every thing ran perfectly infact the new cdi must be different because it revs way higher. Drove it around for about an hour to celebrate then it started to loose its power and die, just like it did the first time, now with the 'broken' magneto in it splutters then dies, so I am still waiting for the part that is allways "a week away"!!

Wasted $$
new ignition coils, proper one $65
Metal one $50
Also possibly might not have needed that new CDI (threw the old one out #6# )

Yes the post is over #woohoo#


.SR.

[Ginger Phil]

Welcome aboard mate, great looking scoot. #thumbs_up#

[cb50j]

cool, handy to retain info#tasty# 157QMJ is a 150 that claims 7Kw but must surely be restricted to state top speed (fractionally faster than mine)80Kmh #WTF# .......152QMI is a 125, 5Kw with same top speed??? enjoying my 50 too much just now. I'd have to sit the CBT and would'nt be able to carry a passenger if I used bigger anyway.(could do a big bore 80, at least then I would retain engine numbers)........... #sprint#