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Post by harpsicord1888 on Oct 13, 2005 16:59:41 GMT
Bought my retro BT50QT-11 from theinternetbikeshop on ebay and it arrived today. After only 4 hours the centre stand has collapsed on one side. The headlight doesn't work and doesn't register on the indicator panel that it is on either. Also I cant the key out the ignition when I put it into the lock position.
Having to take it to a garage on monday as I cant get the centre stand off and I have to send it back for a replacement. Hopefully the headlight will only be a fuse or something minor.
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Post by Ginger Phil on Oct 13, 2005 17:32:52 GMT
Welcome to the forum and welcome to the crazy, mixed-up world of Chinese scooter ownership.
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Post by baotian on Oct 13, 2005 19:46:09 GMT
it sounds like u got a bad scooter of the production line there even tho there made by people but I'm sure everything will be sorted soon, as i am a proud owner of a bt50 as well, and not had many probs, apart from the electric start didn't work, because 2 wires weren't connected, but thats it.
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Oct 14, 2005 4:28:35 GMT
I have a similar problem with my steering lock, when you trun the key to 'Lock' a shoot bolt moves across to stop the handle bars moving. On mine the gap for the shoot bolt to move across into is too small, it just needs about 3mm of steel grinding off the frame behind the lock. It is a manufature fault as the correct 'cut' line is clearly visible on the frame, but it has been cut 3mm too big!
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Post by stevieh on Oct 14, 2005 7:36:31 GMT
I have a QT11 and I think the bike is slowly draining my battery. When the tank is full and the battery is fully charged the fuel gauge shows full, but if i leave it for a day or two, the full gauge shows less than half full! The scooter will still start, but Im worried if i leave it for a few more days, the battery will be flat. Is this normal?
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Oct 14, 2005 11:18:08 GMT
Definitely not!!
I sometimes leave mine for a week and the battery has not drained.
I would check all the wiring, it sounds a big job but it's not that bad. Just follow each system, ie head light circuit, then indicators, etc. I would start with the connections to the key switch and starter soledoid, also the Auto choke.
Your checking for a live wire at these points, when you know there shouldn't be one with out the key on.
There will be power at the key switch with it in the off position. Check the manual for the wiring diagram, and wire colouring
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Post by stevieh on Oct 14, 2005 18:24:31 GMT
cheers billy, It does sound over my head, but i know a man that can do it!
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Post by drzoom on Oct 14, 2005 20:09:34 GMT
The people selling these bikes are having a laugh !! Surely they do some kind of pre-delivery inspection, frankly just trying to turn it on would reveal a lot of the problems that keep cropping up here. I would love to be a fly-on-the-wall when the crates of these machines arrive from China.
To be fair of course my experiences with the ill-fated Piaggio B125 have shown that even the biggest names can be appaullingly unproffesional when it comes to initial set up.
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Post by Gavin on Oct 14, 2005 20:19:40 GMT
The people selling these bikes are having a laugh !! Surely they do some kind of pre-delivery inspection, frankly just trying to turn it on would reveal a lot of the problems that keep cropping up here. I would love to be a fly-on-the-wall when the crates of these machines arrive from China. There is no pre-delivery inspection on most of these scooters, they are purchased still in the crate, and a few parts have to be fitted by the customers. I don't know the reason for this, but I suspect that it is to get around any warranty issues, i.e. the scooter was assembled by the customer, so any problems are down to them.
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Post by Ginger Phil on Oct 15, 2005 9:03:36 GMT
It makes you think doesn't it how many Chinese scooter riders are riding about on potentially lethal bikes.
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Post by drzoom on Oct 15, 2005 22:09:44 GMT
It's absolute madness. The Government force us to pay a fortune to sit CBT's and tests, (and then pour our money into bottomless pits like Iraq - just don't get me started !!) and yet there seem's to be almost nothing at all to stop any tom, thingy or harry, importing scooters they know nothing about and flogging them to an equally ignorant public !
I would guess most of the people buying these bikes know little or nothing about two wheeled transport. I know that was the case with me when I bought the Indian Bajaj Spirit scoot which was my first bike. Thank god the company who imported them at least assembled and tested them before arranging delivery.
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Post by Ginger Phil on Oct 16, 2005 7:50:09 GMT
When I bought my Taishan I knew nothing about scooters (and still don't) but I thought it's a brand new scooter, what could possibly go wrong? How naive of me. and yet there seem's to be almost nothing at all to stop any tom, thingy or harry, importing scooters they know nothing about God bless the naughty word censor.
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Post by dazzibhoy on Oct 16, 2005 8:12:10 GMT
When i got mine off the internetbikeshop it came in a crate but was mostly assembled and it had 2km on the clock. they said that it was tested before i picked it up.
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Post by drzoom on Oct 16, 2005 10:40:45 GMT
it must have racked up the 2km shaking about inside the crate on the slow boat from China !
I agree with you Phil, I had this blind faith in the safety of all things new when I bought my first scoot,luckily that one was OK as was the Adly 125cc I bought next. My faith was well and truly shattered by Piaggio who were inept in the extreme, but is being gradually restored by my experiences with Honda who are very proffesional.
The one lesson I have learnt from my experiences is never buy a scoot without a decent dealer network behind it. Even in the case of the Piaggio, the bike and dealer were lousy, but at least the presence of the dealership allowed me to get my money back.
These Chinese bikes are fine as a glorified toy, half mile trips to the shops etc, but I'm seriously worried about the type of uses some people think they can put them too. One guy on here was doing a 50mile daily commute on a Chinese 50cc - crazy ! Another guy was ding 15mph on his faulty Chinese 50cc along the Bristol Tunnel - lunacy ! Sorry guys but your placing yourselves and others at extreme risk.
By all means buy one of these cheap bikes to see if scootering is for you (that's extactly what I did 3 years ago), but have a serious think about what day-to-day use you are going to put it to, and if that involves distance, busy roads, varying weather conditions etc,then ditch the cheap bike pronto and invest in something decent.
Ok rant over ! ;D
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Post by stevieh on Oct 16, 2005 12:20:34 GMT
I agree. I wish now with hindsight, that i had bought a second hand vespa. Although there is nothing mechanically wrong, im sure the battery problem is now sorted out, but Ive lost my enthusiasm for it. I will wait until ive ran it in, and done the oil changes, then sell it (at a loss no doubt) either on ebay or locally. (Anybody interested?)
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Post by Ginger Phil on Oct 16, 2005 15:50:31 GMT
If you do sell up Steve try part exchanging it like I did. I got £400 p/x for my Taishan which considering I paid £370 wasn't too bad. Just go to a dealer, tell them what you want for your bike and if you don't get any joy just walk out of the showroom. Like Dr Zoom was saying about spares, that was one reason for selling my Taishan. I was always thinking what if I break a light - I'd never be able to buy a new one. Hindsight is a great thing, I'd never buy another scooter unless I had a dealer close to home.
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Post by baotian on Oct 16, 2005 19:06:39 GMT
i dont think that is the same for baotian, is it?
im sure you can buy spare lights??
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Post by Ginger Phil on Oct 16, 2005 19:50:04 GMT
You can't easily buy them in the same way you can buy Peugeot or Honda parts. The only place you can try is ebay.
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