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Post by hypojam on Aug 15, 2005 11:29:36 GMT
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Post by stevieh on Aug 15, 2005 12:13:12 GMT
agreed.
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Post by Gavin on Aug 15, 2005 13:14:43 GMT
If the information is well put together, and the detail is correct, then £3.50 inclusive is not a bad price.
If it is, as I suspect, just a copy of the 3 pdf files available for downloading from this forum for nothing, there are so many inaccuracies contained within it to make it at the very least unreliable, and at the worst, downright dangerous. One example being the tyre pressure for the rear tyre being quoted at 33 psi instead of 23 psi, (a 43% increase). The torque settings quoted for many of the bolts are misleading, with decimal points missing in some of the examples, this could result in bolts being sheared if they were followed to the letter.
As Billy is a member of this forum, perhaps he could clarify if he has rewritten the manuals with the correct information, or just passed on the many mistakes contained in the original, because if he has just copied the original, and is selling it as fact, he might find himself in trouble if anyone becomes a cropper through following the information he has supplied.
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 15, 2005 15:04:51 GMT
Good on him if he makes some cash out of it, if he didn't do it somebody else would - and have.  |
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Aug 15, 2005 15:53:51 GMT
Thanks. I have taken your points on-board and altered the listing to reflect these. cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7993428042. Please be aware though, the information about de-restricting, and photos, are all my own work. The information was researched from a number of sources, and my own finding. This information I have, and always will, share with the members of this board. If people are not willing to trawl the internet, and would just prefer to get the information from one source and are prepared to pay me for my time, then is it wrong of me to let them? Thanks for your input anyway..  |
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 15, 2005 17:13:57 GMT
Don't blame you chap. For a little while I was selling two links to porn sites which offered free pictures & movies, after a couple of weeks and £15 later eBay removed the listing.  |
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 15, 2005 18:25:18 GMT
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Post by Gavin on Aug 15, 2005 19:02:59 GMT
Thanks. I have taken your points on-board and altered the listing to reflect these. cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7993428042. Please be aware though, the information about de-restricting, and photos, are all my own work. The information was researched from a number of sources, and my own finding. This information I have, and always will, share with the members of this board. If people are not willing to trawl the internet, and would just prefer to get the information from one source and are prepared to pay me for my time, then is it wrong of me to let them? Thanks for your input anyway.. I do agree with you Billy, and the price is low considering the work involved to produce, and mail the pack. But if someone was riding down the road with a rear tyre pumped up to 33psi, and the tyre, or wheel, blew to pieces, it could make a nasty mess, so it seems much better now it includes the line "This Service Manual is a direct translation from Chinese, and as such may contain errors." It may be me being over cautious, but with the litigation that seems to be flying about nowadays, it is better to be safe than sorry. |
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Aug 15, 2005 20:14:43 GMT
As I said before, thanks for your comments, they are very welcome. It was not my intention to knowingly supply incorrect info. I was unware of this. To be honest I have not read the manual from cover to cover, I have just used it as a reference for specific stuff. Thanks again..  |
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Post by hypojam on Aug 22, 2005 15:34:09 GMT
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 22, 2005 16:13:47 GMT
I bet he's nicked them from here or from David's site directly? |
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Aug 22, 2005 19:05:22 GMT
Good on him if he makes some cash out of it, if he didn't do it somebody else would - and have.  You've changed your tune! Besides at it clearly says in the listing 'They are available for free elsewhere' If people don't want to trawl the Internet for them, and would rather pay someone (me) to put all the info in one convenient place, is that wrong? You will notice also form reading the listing, the price only just covers the cost of a blank CD-R, label printing, time and effort of actually burning them, and post and packing! To be honest i think it's just a case of people wishing they had thought of it first! |
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 22, 2005 19:24:35 GMT
You've changed your tune! No I haven't. |
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Aug 22, 2005 19:39:37 GMT
I don't want to get into an argument over it.
I'm just a little miffed that people are having a go at me for listing the manuals.
After all, people who want them have a choice. I havent seen ANY ebay listings selling somthing AND telling their customers where to get it for free as I do!
Every person that buys from me is directed to this forum! Even enquiries I get I send them here!
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 22, 2005 19:41:56 GMT
I said the same thing about your listing didn't I??  Read my replies again. |
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Aug 22, 2005 19:49:48 GMT
It because of other ebayers charging more, that I list as cheap as I do.
I don't want people to be 'sucked into' paying far too much for something that doesn't cost anything in the first place.
I was just quickly reckoning up my listing, After listing fees, selling fees, Paypal fees, everything else (CD, Post Packaging etc.) I actually costs me 15p for everyone I sell!!!
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Aug 22, 2005 19:54:08 GMT
I must appologise to you Phil, and also Hypojam.
I was thinking that Hypojam was refering to one of my listings!!
I'll get me coat then.....
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Post by Ginger Phil on Aug 22, 2005 19:56:13 GMT
I must appologise to you Phil, and also Hypojam. I was thinking that Hypojam was refering to one of my listings!! I'll get me coat then..... That'll teach ya!!  I did wonder why you were going off on one. ;D |
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Read my replies again. 
I did wonder why you were going off on one. ;D