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Post by Davros on Jun 23, 2006 14:42:21 GMT
I can kind of see what Botanic was gettin at - not as pure as just "turning the handlebars the opposite way", but as you lean into a bend, I have noticed a mild gesture of the handlebars that does feel as little as though you're holding the bars straight ahead, or a little to the opposite way.
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Post by Spaceprobe on Jun 23, 2006 19:16:56 GMT
When taking a corner or turn slow, apply a little rear brake and increase the throttle. This will keep your revs and power up and should make the turn more stable
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Post by Botanic on Jun 23, 2006 23:03:50 GMT
I can kind of see what Botanic was gettin at - not as pure as just "turning the handlebars the opposite way", but as you lean into a bend, I have noticed a mild gesture of the handlebars that does feel as little as though you're holding the bars straight ahead, or a little to the opposite way. This is exactly what I mean. Just take it one step further and hold the bars even more to the opposite way. I forgot to add that this does not apply on very slow turns. Only on turns where you lean. The leaning of your body and turning the handlebars the opposite way goes hand in hand. You will automatically lean the other way (of your handles) in order not to fall down. I can bet a lot of Jupiter money on that everyone here does this every day they are riding the scoot. It is just an automatic reaction that no one seems to think of. Instead of write here that I am crazy saying this, go out and take a ride. Think of what you are doing while riding Proof pictures: www.owlertonstadium.co.uk/images/speedway.gifwww.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/2005_suzuki_boulevard_c50t/photo_01.htmlHaha. Even better proof: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-steeringAnyone still wanting to bet Jupiter money?
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Post by ally1756 on Jun 24, 2006 0:23:44 GMT
i wouldnt recomend that to a brand new rider, and notice the first pic the is skidding along lol
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Post by jason on Jun 24, 2006 5:48:56 GMT
speedway is the same as drifting in a car .I dont know how you can compare this to riding your scooter.Ive had a full bike licence for 7 years and had a couple of 600 s and i dont what your on.lol..jay
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Post by Botanic on Jun 24, 2006 10:32:59 GMT
i wouldnt recomend that to a brand new rider, and notice the first pic the is skidding along lol Yes I agree. I would not try to explain this to a beginner. But still the first turn that the beginner will do, is this way (most probably). Jason, please read the wikipedia article and the links in there. I am not on drugs. I am just aware of my actions, which I have noticed that not many people here are This is simple physics. The wikipedia article explains it better than I do. The same thing applies to riding a bike. Please think about it atleast before you just throw it away
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Post by jason on Jun 24, 2006 15:14:36 GMT
when riding you dont actually think about turning you just lean shift your weight and away you go..jay
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Post by Botanic on Jun 24, 2006 18:04:06 GMT
when riding you dont actually think about turning you just lean shift your weight and away you go..jay But you can turn sharper if you think and overdo the turning of the handlebars. That's what it is all about. This helped me manage turns without loosing as much speed.
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Post by zafer on Jun 24, 2006 18:16:34 GMT
the important thing is to have confidence in yourself and the scooter, to do this find an open space where you can start and stop and turn in any direction without having to think of signals or signs and there is only you and the scooter, as you get used to it you can expand on to the streets on quiet days when there is not much trafic around and do the same things there but you will have to observe the signs and signals then,it will not take long before you will be belting down the motor way, it is a fact that the faster you go you keep better balance and control, it is just like a bicycle with a motor
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Post by Davros on Jun 25, 2006 10:54:28 GMT
I totally agree, I was just saying to my partner (who's the nervous rider), that I think riding a bike / scoot is 80% confident, 20% technique.... I'm leaning fine but she still thinks the bike will 'topple over' even though in fact, stability IMPROVES with the appropriate lean.
She's getting there though!
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Post by zafer on Jun 25, 2006 14:32:11 GMT
maybe there is one other thing that should be done first, it may seem daft but I think it will help,if you have a bike and it can carry two people? take your friend out on the it, and go along a road that has curves in it, not sharp ones, you know that a person who does not have the feel for it, tends to lean in the opposite direction, when this happens you feel it as it affects the steering as well as balance, the point here is let them get used to the feeling of going with the bike, they will feel safer then on their own
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Post by jose on Jul 15, 2006 0:39:05 GMT
Remember.. To turn right.. your body begins to lean right.. and you may have forgotten.. but if you do this to a bike while the motor is off and standing still and you are sitting on it.. hands off the handle bar..Your wheel will "fall' to the right.. Your body will automatically adjust and "push" the handle bar to the left to keep it from "falling".. While riding this occurrs and you adjust..
For your wife to adjust to right/left hand turns.. she like I may be looking just infront of the turn.. try looking some 20 meters down the turn and plan on driving to That" point you have selected.. this give the body a sense of "to get there, I must have speed to maintian balance'..
Good luck and like they say.. keep practicing..
Hope this helps..
Jose'
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Post by ally1756 on Jul 15, 2006 0:52:12 GMT
howz the wife gettign on with the scoot? OMG 2000 POSTS!!!
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