HELP Wanted - Wiring Problems?

[pretzelz2k]

Hi everyone, my BT50-QT9 was stolen from my house a few weeks ago, and found by police the next

morning two blocks away from my house. It looks like the vandal s tried to hotwire it, the police

found it with the front panel ripped off, and the wiring removed from the round ignition bit near

the top. (I bought this from the internetbikeshop on Ebay about 6 months ago)

Unfortunately, I have never seen under this front panel before, so I don't know where or how the

wiring is supposed to go. There are no lose wires which look like they could be soldered back

onto the ignition bit - and everything else mostly looks like its plugged into something. So I'm

really lost. (I know how to solder, though)

This is my first time on the website and forum - I'm thrilled it exists because theinternetbikeshop says from the photos I sent them, they can't help, and to bring the bike up to them in London to service. Well... I don't have an opportunity to do this, and it looks like the people who stole my bike simply messed with the wiring, had no success then dumped it. Which is why I'm appealing for your help

So, basically, I will try to attach about four photos with this post. They show the ignition block (what wires are supposed to go to it, and where?) the main wiring at the front of the bike (again, what is supposed to go where?) and finally the battery compartment (does this all look ok? I don't think they messed with it, but the battery was taken).

Incidentally, I bought a new battery and inserted it. I can tell you, in the state its currently in, nothing happens when the starter button is pressed, or with the lights, or anything. It's dead in everyway. (I thought it might be in a half-attempted hotwire state)

My thanks in advance to any genius who can work out what needs rectifying from these photos, cos I haven't a clue! (the pictures are good quality, apart from the ignition close up.)

-david-
email: [e-mail]

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[ally1756]

sorry to hear that,
the battery compartment is fine - check the fuse in the white plastic box
i dont see any cut wires anywhere just empty looms which will all have places to go so connect them all up,
ill try and get a picture of my igniton switch for you and u can match the wires up that way

where do u stay im sure someone lives nearby and will be quite happy to help u out

[chcknugget]

I'm glad to hear you got it back!!!

Can't you just plug the connectors back together? Your scooter is a little different than mine... But then again, I can't really tell what I'm supposed to be looking at in the picss!


here you go:


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[BillyGreen1973]

I see in the pic there is a plug not connected, I'm almost sure this goes to the Ignition switch. I'll have a look at my bike and take a couple of photos, mines the same as yours.

[Macrofeet]

yep your right someones hot wired it how i know this because

my 125 is currently hotwired

the ignition switch is missing up to the block connectior

for the moment i can tell you how to wire it
so it can start of any small switch or so that you have to just twist 2 wires together and then it will start as normal

go here for a new switch

www.scootusa.com/ignition_switchs.htm

[ally1756]

heres how mine was when it was new



ally

[Macrofeet]

tiz the other side thats got the problem
here

[Macrofeet]

[pretzelz2k]

Thanks guys for your speedy reply! It's a great relief being able to have your support on this - really I thought I would be totally on my own with this moped. This website is a gem!! As indeed, are all of you! I tell you what, if I get the moped working again, I'll be so pleased Oh - I live in Southampton by the way Ally.

[Macrofeet]

That usa site ships to the uk and you pay in dollors cha ching

its like good exchange rate at mo $100 = £65

they will sort you out with the exsact right part if you contact them

or you could
try these guys in the uk

[e-mail] for the part


if you have problems getting a battery you could try

www.tayna.co.uk/

i gave them the volts and the amps (for 50cc i think its 12 4amp)

also you will need to mesure the battery compartment for the correct size you want to ask for a battery with block connectors on

worked out a bit exspencive £40 inc del for a filled charged 12 6amp battery for my 125 was an english make

[Macrofeet]

ally you got an alarm or and remote start on yours right ?

if so big block thing with the white plastic tie round it and the green wire under it that be it i thinks

never seen b4 for some reason i was thinking these would be near the cdi and battery

[ally1756]

hes got a battery and the problems are all over if u look, im sure we have some members in southampton maybe thatd be willing to help u out
aly

[BillyGreen1973]

The wiring is missing on your bike from the empty plug to the back of your ignition switch.

As you can see in this pic of my bike, you will need to solder 5 wires to the back of the ignition switch.

Just cut the loose plug off and connect the wires direct.
These pics should help









Let me know how you get on

[Macrofeet]

it looks diffrent you yours ally becuase you have a remote starter or alarm or both

all that appears that happend is the wires were taken off the switch and wired together this removes the need for a key

The wires and block connector are missing you can solder these back if you have them

i did mine with a glue gun and soldering iron it was tricky

first find out the correct combination

then solder the wires on

then i glued guned over mine to stop shorts

was well gash in the end it worked okay but i seen em on that scoot usa site adn i needed some more parts i was thinking

why not get a new one i dont want me bike to not start then have to hotwire it in town

first i'd re do the hot wire or solder to see if thats the only problem then if it is spend out like 30 quid on the part

[BillyGreen1973]

If only I was in Southampton!
I could fix it in about 10 mins. It's just a case of soldering 5 wires.

[pretzelz2k]

Hold on a second... I arrive home this evening after work, and your kind messages of help, to find the new battery for my moped - gone?! Don't seriously tell me someone has gone into the garage and stolen the battery?! This is incredible!!

[pretzelz2k]

...Yep, after further checking, since the moped has been out of order, and sat in the garage, someone has actually been into the garage and taken the new battery I bought for it. I wonder if they are the same people who took the moped in the first place? Either way, this is getting a bit rediculous...

Thanks for all your diagrams for wiring it up, and you suggestions of new ignition bits. I copied down the wiring colours and when I looked in the garage, as BillGreen said, I should just be able to match up the wires by cutting off the block. Unforunately this isn't enough length on this, but I guess I'll get some wires from somewhere and extend them and resolder them onto the old solder blobs which still exist.

I decided to look around the bike some more, with my untrained eye, to see if I could spot any other anomolies. I found one more. Near the kickstart at the back, there are two rubber tubes hanging down from underneith. They don't touch the ground. The tubing is black, and hollow. One is slightly wider diameter than the other, about 1 cm and 0.5cm. I wonder what this is about?!

..you know, I'm going to look around the house more, just incase I took the battery inside somewhere, but its pretty tidy here, i can't see it anywhere, or in the garage, and I'm positive I simply stuck it in the bike to test it, once I got it back from the police (and ordered the replacement battery). I'm almost at a strange point of thinking - if I buy a 3rd battery, is that going to disappear now, too? And are there people visiting my house reguarly?

(I bought a cheap motion sensor alarm the other day, my idea was to put it inside the seat, and if anyone tried to steal the moped, the motion of it being tilted might set it off. But now that I've played with it, I don't think it's quite as sensitive. Perhaps I'll figure out somewhere better to put it on the bike. (I also thought of buying more, and fixing them to the door handles in the house. Anyone trying to break in and these will give a good warning about it)

I'm on a real budget because I'm soon to be a student at the University here. (on a gap year currently). Plus I'll be leaving to see my girlfriend in russia in 3 weeks time, then going to America for 5 months to do some writing. But primarily you see, I wanted to be happy in that my moped was working again, for when I arrived back.

I'll let you know how I get on...

[Macrofeet]

the pipes are normal

one is a breather pipe

the other is a carb drain off pipe

here is a pic which i made a long while a go which you might
find useful to help you know the engine basics you need to zoom in to see labels etc

lets see if anyone notices about the fuel filter shhh