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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Oct 12, 2005 19:28:07 GMT
I think you would have no problems selling the kits!
It would be good to see a pic of one.
Thanks for the discount to forum members.
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Post by jonathan on Oct 12, 2005 19:33:34 GMT
No problem soon as they are in will send pics to anyone who wants to see them, or they will be on our website, but to tell you the truth the 79cc cylinder didnt realy look that much bigger than a standard 50 and I have'nt see the 100cc kit yet, I will try to get a pic off my chinese mate.
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Oct 12, 2005 19:42:55 GMT
Great thanks
I guess the 100cc kits would come with a bigger head. Also, I could be wrong, but wouldn't the upgraded engine need a bigger carb main jet, as it now has to supply twice as much fuel/air?
Let me know what you think
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Post by hypojam on Oct 12, 2005 19:53:40 GMT
how will phil test the kits??? he doesnt have chinese scoot anymore?? lol
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Post by jonathan on Oct 12, 2005 19:53:49 GMT
I thought that aswell but aparently not, as for the jet, yes but not that much bigger as the intake is larger it tends to suck more fuel. as tested on 79cc kit. Jon.
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Post by BillyGreen1973 on Oct 12, 2005 20:01:02 GMT
I was reading on a swedish forum, they have been drilling the main jets out to make them bigger as there are not many different sizes to choose from. I think I would have a go at drilling a spare jet and testing that.
Unless you know where to get these too ;D
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Post by Ginger Phil on Oct 13, 2005 14:22:03 GMT
how will phil test the kits??? he doesnt have chinese scoot anymore?? lol My power of persuasion paid off and my mate bought a Baotian so he'll be the guinea pig. I'll help him and together we can take a few piccies and do a write-up.
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Post by jonathan on Oct 13, 2005 16:19:15 GMT
the jet can be filed out useing jet files BOC sell them for a quid something, we use them everyday for de-restricting, but dont be a hero they are very effective.
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Post by chcknugget on Oct 13, 2005 20:37:58 GMT
Dmilo (factory installed) and I (self installed) have the 80cc kit installed and it certainly does not go 60 mph (and no wheelies). I cruise easily around 40mph which is about 5 mph faster than it used to be. Because of factory inconsistencies some bikes in the US are actually 80cc even though they are sold as 50cc. Hypojam, I highly suspect your bike may be 80cc already if it goes 45mph.
I hate to kill the fun, but it's not all that great. There needs to be an upgrade to the carburetor or you may run too lean and kill your kit. Unless you know what you are doing you could kill the consistant ridability. Instructions are great, but you need to have some experience and patience as well.
It'll go faster, but you'll learn how to repair your engine quick because of all the adjustments that need to be made.
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Post by chcknugget on Oct 13, 2005 20:56:49 GMT
I'm sorry my last post came out so negative- I love the fact that my scooter is faster!
This would be the perfect project for someone who doesn't totally rely on their scooter for daily transportation, and were going to garage it in the wintertime anyway. And it is cool to learn how the thing works! Just remember that when I joined this forum in August my scooter wasn't working and it took me about 2 months to get mine working right.
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Post by hypojam on Oct 13, 2005 21:38:21 GMT
:oMine Might Be 80cc Already Fastest Ive measured on the flat is 43mph I usually cruise at 40mph Does it look like 80cc
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Post by r08813 on Oct 13, 2005 21:52:16 GMT
I think that you may need to measure the piston diameter and the difference between the top and bottom height to check the capacity (Bit of boring maths I'm afraid).
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Post by chcknugget on Oct 13, 2005 21:53:15 GMT
:oMine Might Be 80cc Already Fastest Ive measured on the flat is 43mph I usually cruise at 40mph Does it look like 80cc Hahaha, no promises! Your picture links did not work for me. The 50cc and the 80cc look identical from the outside, but an easy way to tell is to take the valve cover off and see what number is next to the intake valve. If it is a 4, it is 50cc, if it is 10, it is 80cc. The guy I bought my kit from warned that there might be no difference with the new kit because my factory might be 80cc anyways. I also asked a lifan dealer that sold lifan replacement engines and he says a number of scooters have the 80cc and are sold as 50cc. He also said that the biggest you could go was 50cc because the engine studs are too close for bigger.
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Post by chcknugget on Oct 13, 2005 22:09:47 GMT
oops, your pics work now! Your head and cylinder looks bigger than my 50cc sitting here. Look for a 10 under the valve cover! It means 80cc. This should help:
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Post by hypojam on Oct 13, 2005 23:19:34 GMT
I will check the numbers tomorrow! It looks like it might be a 4! but I'm not sure
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Post by chcknugget on Oct 14, 2005 4:49:10 GMT
It looks like an 8, which might be somewhere in between a 50cc and an 80cc! The 8 is by the upper intake valve near the top of the picture. As I said earlier, your cylinder bore does look noticably larger than my 50cc. You can tell by looking at the distance from the 4 block studs to the outside of the bore.
I really don't know if that number really has anything to do with size... For all I know it could be an identification number of what plant in China cast it! However It just seems logical to me that they would correspond to some size, because the number (and the bore of course) are the only actual differences I could tell between the kits!
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Post by hypojam on Oct 14, 2005 7:36:00 GMT
the top number does look like an 8 the lower left number looks like a 4 the lower right number i dont know what it is Do the lower numbers mean anything?
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Post by hypojam on Oct 14, 2005 7:57:17 GMT
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